Question:
A previous MinistryCPA blog post mentioned that, "In addition, unlike other retirement plan choices (Traditional and Roth IRAs, and for-profit company 401(k) plans), a minister is not subject to the 15.3 percent federal self-employment tax on amounts deferred into 403(b) accounts (IRS Revenue Rulings 68-395 and 78-6)."
Does this exclusion apply to ministers with elective deferrals to Roth 403(b) plans similar to the treatment available when contributing to pre-tax 403(b) plans?
I can see how this works easily for pre-tax 403(b) plans since Form W-2, Box 1 (total compensation) does not include the contributions as income. Accordingly, Schedule SE self-employment tax based on Box 1 is not assessed.
Answer:
We know of no IRS Revenue Rulings or authoritative IRS publications that would permit the reduction of SE tax through Roth 403(b) contributions.
Compare a traditional 403(b) contribution with a Roth 403(b) contribution displayed on Form W-2. Assumptions: $50,000 total compensation with $10,000 designated as housing allowance and $2,000 as elective deferrals (either traditional or Roth 403(b) plans).
Form W-2 with a traditional 403(b) contribution:
Form W-2 with a Roth 403(b) contribution:
Ministers often prefer Roth contributions for their non-taxable distribution benefit. Once retired, they can enjoy significant tax reductions. One alternative strategy may yet allow a minister tax-free distributions from his pre-tax 403(b) plan. When he retires, he may ask his congregation to designate his 403(b) withdrawals as housing allowance.
Please see the following posts for further explanation:
A previous MinistryCPA blog post mentioned that, "In addition, unlike other retirement plan choices (Traditional and Roth IRAs, and for-profit company 401(k) plans), a minister is not subject to the 15.3 percent federal self-employment tax on amounts deferred into 403(b) accounts (IRS Revenue Rulings 68-395 and 78-6)."
Does this exclusion apply to ministers with elective deferrals to Roth 403(b) plans similar to the treatment available when contributing to pre-tax 403(b) plans?
I can see how this works easily for pre-tax 403(b) plans since Form W-2, Box 1 (total compensation) does not include the contributions as income. Accordingly, Schedule SE self-employment tax based on Box 1 is not assessed.
Answer:
We know of no IRS Revenue Rulings or authoritative IRS publications that would permit the reduction of SE tax through Roth 403(b) contributions.
Compare a traditional 403(b) contribution with a Roth 403(b) contribution displayed on Form W-2. Assumptions: $50,000 total compensation with $10,000 designated as housing allowance and $2,000 as elective deferrals (either traditional or Roth 403(b) plans).
Form W-2 with a traditional 403(b) contribution:
Form W-2 with a Roth 403(b) contribution:
Ministers often prefer Roth contributions for their non-taxable distribution benefit. Once retired, they can enjoy significant tax reductions. One alternative strategy may yet allow a minister tax-free distributions from his pre-tax 403(b) plan. When he retires, he may ask his congregation to designate his 403(b) withdrawals as housing allowance.
Please see the following posts for further explanation:
- http://ministrycpa.blogspot.com/2015/02/church-plan-401k-or-403b.html
- http://ministrycpa.blogspot.com/2012/12/establishing-retirement-housing-plan.html
- http://ministrycpa.blogspot.com/2012/10/403b-retirement-distributed-as-housing.html
- http://ministrycpa.blogspot.com/2010/09/housing-designation-of-403b-plan.html
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